Thursday, April 24, 2014

Cliven Bundy Update - Are Black People better off as Slaves?

Let me get this out of the way:

Leave race out of it, and its simple:

Exodus 22:21
Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.

I literally, LOL'd when I read this, this guy is pure entertainment.
For the record, I don't think he's racists, I just think he's silly.

This is an accurate perspective on blacks and welfare:


Jackson says that welfare, not slavery, destroys black families
BY MARKUS SCHMIDT, Richmond Times-Dispatch | Posted 10 months ago



At a Juneteenth event in Newport News, E.W. Jackson, the Republican candidate for lieutenant governor, said slavery did not destroy black families, but government welfare programs launched in the 1960s caused them to deteriorate.

"The program that began to tell women 'you don't need a man in the home, the government will take care of you,' [and] that began to tell men 'you don't need to be in the home, the government will take care of this woman and will take care of these children,'" he said.

more here:
http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/jackson-says-that-welfare-not-slavery-destroys-black-families/article_1e1de5ce-d9fc-11e2-b38b-0019bb30f31a.html?mode=jqm

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An inaccurate perspective on blacks and welfare:

Apr 24, 2014 1:03PM ET / Politics
Cliven Bundy Denies He Is a Racist as Video Emerges of Him Saying Racist ThingsAbby Ohlheiser

Image Reuters

    “I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. Mr. Bundy recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do."

   
“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom."

video here:
http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/04/cliven-bundy-denies-he-is-a-racist-as-video-emerges-of-him-saying-racist-things/361179/

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Apr 24, 2014 9:36AM ET / Cliven Bundy
A List of Cliven Bundy's Supporters, Now That We Know He's a Pro-Slavery Racist
Arit John, Abby Ohlheiser

Image MSNBC

  • U.S. Sen. Dean Heller
  • Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott
  • Nevada State Assemblywoman Michele Fiore
  • U.S. Sen. Rand Paul
  • U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz
  • Texas Governor Rick Perry
  • 2012 Presidential Hopeful Herman Cain
the excuses, here:
http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/04/a-list-of-cliven-bundys-supporters-now-that-we-know-hes-a-pro-slavery-racist/361154/

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Apr 24, 2014 9:59AM ET / Politics
Cliven Bundy Neatly Encapsulates a Potent Crossroads of Opposition to Obama
Philip Bump

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There were already a lot of lessons about the modern political landscape to be drawn from the standoff of rancher Cliven Bundy and federal agents in Nevada, but Bundy's comments looping in race and the welfare state reveal one of the most important: President Obama embodies a number of the things that his opponents dislike most.

Bundy, as you are no doubt aware by now, was joined by hundreds of activists — many armed — to protest the seizure of his livestock by the federal government. The standoff was portrayed by conservatives as one earnest businessman standing up to the ruthless bureaucracy of Washington, D.C.; it was portrayed by liberals as an alarming and unconstitutional act of rebellion against authority. Then, as you are also no doubt aware, Bundy tipped the scales of sympathy against himself, in an interview with The New York Times.

"I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro," he told the Times' Adam Nagourney. That thing was that Bundy had driven past public housing and seen poor black people with "nothing to do." "And because they were basically on government subsidy … [t]hey abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy?" Should you need a rebuttal for that last argument, I will leave it to The Atlantic's Ta-Nehisi Coates who points out, in short, that slavery was inherently cruel and unconscionably repressive.



But Bundy's argument is a common one, mixing in race and government programs and government overreach. There's a Venn diagram to be made, so I made it. These are overlapping complaints, which are represented here with circles of the same size for clarity but in which the anti-government sentiment circle is far, far larger than the racism circle in reality. Is Bundy at the center of the diagram? Probably; he's certainly in the overlap at upper right. (Update: He says he isn't.) But the larger point is this: the presidency of Barack Obama fits neatly into that little center triangle.

There is another relevant story in Thursday's Times — an analysis of voting patterns and race in 2012. Nate Cohn explains that, under Obama, Republicans have greatly strengthened their support in the South.

    While white Southerners have been voting Republican for decades, the hugeness of the gap was new. Mr. Obama often lost more than 40 percent of Al Gore’s support among white voters south of the historically significant line of the Missouri Compromise. … It is no exaggeration to suggest that in these states the Democrats have become the party of African Americans and that the Republicans are the party of whites.

more here:
http://www.thewire.com/politics/2014/04/cliven-bundy-neatly-encapsulates-a-potent-crossroads-of-opposition-to-obama/361158/

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Apr 24, 2014 8:36AM ET / The Daily Show
Jon Stewart Skewers Sean Hannity: "You're the Arby's of News"
Ben Cosman

Image Comedy Central

Jon Stewart's love of Sean Hannity is well documented. The two have a long, storied past together, but sometimes Hannity simply goes too far. Like this week, when he did a segment attacking Stewart's "obsession" with him. So you can imagine the field day The Daily Show had with that.

"There is not much that I truly love in this world: my family, my country, my priceless collection of antique ceramic cats ... but above, all my heart belongs to my beloved," Stewart began the show, meaning, of course, Sean Hannity.

But how does Stewart respond when Hannity calls him a "comedic hack" and one of the "chief apologists for the Obama administration"?

"Oh my god, wait, wait, wait, just wait – Sean Hannity knows my name!" Stewart said, and then proceeded to, well, rub his nipples in ecstasy.

After all of that though, Stewart really laid into Hannity.

"Yes, I am obsessed with your program," Stewart said."You can say true things. I am obsessed with your program in the same way that I am obsessed with antibiotic-resistant superbugs or the Pacific garbage patch or the KFC Double Down, because I just can't believe in this day and age, with all that we know, this shit is out there."

He went on: "To see [your show] night after night, serving the same shit, my god, you're the Arby's of news. How can I not be obsessed with the Arby's of news?"

And then Stewart went into the paradox of Hannity's ideological principles, and it was not pretty.

video here:
http://www.thewire.com/entertainment/2014/04/jon-stewart-skewers-sean-hannity-youre-the-arbys-of-news/361153/

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No one is better off a slave.
Cliven Bundy is playing a dangerous game, and he's going to lose.



pic found here:
https://twitter.com/owillis/status/459424846812700672/photo/1


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